https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/hnk0r9/35k_125m_in_4_months/
350多笔交易还没仔细看,肯定有运气的成分也跟对了大势,但确实敏感抓住了大题材,平均下来每天才5笔交易。。。每天辛苦daytrade future真不好意思比较😂😂
回头好好学习一下,特别是怎么做的风险控制,现在根本不敢下大单总hold不住😅
$35k -> $1.25M in 4~ months
submitted 15 hours ago*bymori226
22.5k points submitted 15 hours ago * by mori226Paid $1.25m to change his flair& 30 more
Alright boys. This is going to be my final gains post. I cracked the 7-figure mark, and then some. I started with $35k in my ROTH IRA in late February/early March. I took out $50k, so current balance is after this amount. Total balance: https://preview.redd.it/aza8wfympn951.png?width=620&format=png&auto=webp&s=9bf62f41c7548042e7155fc7988cb55b63e74f69 YTD graph, it's been an insane wild ride. The top balance on graph is balance from yesterday, this graph only updates overnight: https://preview.redd.it/4ujrx8gtpn951.png?width=503&format=png&auto=webp&s=9e7dfbddc461ba03ad0dce267a78002a797407b0 Unlike my previous post, I'm going to post every single one of my trades I've ever made. There was a total of about 350 trades I made. Here are all my winning trades: https://preview.redd.it/fu0a7hn4qn951.png?width=1169&format=png&auto=webp&s=0a2fcc6bb5b52e10ba50301aa0374feb8d0fe863 https://preview.redd.it/dzsx6d2aqn951.png?width=1165&format=png&auto=webp&s=06a5639feb386ebd2ca83bfaed92b6b70d197803 And here are all my losers: https://preview.redd.it/50o2gaufqn951.png?width=1159&format=png&auto=webp&s=d08b45c387251b1ad9d89fb13ba9ed733cb98503 Paid over $14k in commissions to Fidelity: https://preview.redd.it/6jsl4utqqn951.png?width=472&format=png&auto=webp&s=1238eed7f211baf66e79fbb8a3a9d8c8f1ec6d38 I will update this post if anything else comes to my mind. But to put it succinctly. There is a process I follow. I outlined pretty much everything I do in the series of edits and comments I made in my original gains post here: https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/h83cfp/35k_590k_in_3_months/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x If you have any questions in addition though, ask away, I will try to get to everybody. And yes, it fucking feels amazing. Also, gaymods... can I please get a flair change to "$35k to $1.25M"? I'm copying and pasting the tips I had in my other post into this since many of you retarded fucks can't even seem to click a link. The following are the general rules I follow in my trades. They have served me well. Luck has a lot to do with it. Probably 60% or more, but learning to click the damn sell and buy button when you don't feel like it (due to greed or fear) is the second biggest component. EDIT: Let me try to answer some of the common questions. I started with $35k in my ROTH. That was money I saved up from previous job. Hold 50% cash reserve at all times as a minimum. YOLOs on FDs are not how you build wealth using options. Go into OTM positions but only about 10-15%, and a reasonable chance that you personal feel the company can get to the strike before expiration Learn the greeks. Check current IV levels of the company. Try not to get into trades where the IV is at the top tippy top of a 12 month period. Learn to not beat yourself up over your trades/mistakes/woulda-shoulda-coulda's. <- This right here was the biggest lesson I learned. Staying focused and not killing myself over my huge mistakes. That sense of dread and horror after seeing your account run up to $550k and then plummeting below $100k in a matter of a week or so, I know is horrific, but learn to focus on what you still have left and climb back up. LET YOUR WINNERS RIDE. If you are cashing out on a hugely green position, consider taking out only a chunk or better yet, put a trailing stop loss around 20%. I put t-stops once a position goes green about 50%. I don't put trailing stops on currently red positions. I exit my losers by hand usually. I think psychologically I prefer to kill the red deals myself because I'd feel even more horrific and blame the system of the broker if I had a losing position exit out on a trailing stop. Do not put more than 25% of your account into a single position. We celebrate YOLOs and retardism around here yes, but that doesn't mean you need follow the ultra-retards. Don't hold 20 different positions. I see so many people holding fucking LUV/AAL/UAL/DAL positions at the same fucking time. No, just pick one and focus on it. Doesn't fucking matter which one, currently besides maybe LUV, the airlines move in lockstep. LEARN TO CUT YOUR LOSSES. Even at -90%. That 10% through the magic of options trading can easily be used to make the 90% again. Try to climb back out of a hole with 0% left though. I'll edit more in if I think of anything else, but overall, try to stay disciplined. Learning to control (I admit still very ineffectively but enough to usually put a rein on a runaway destructive thought process) my emotions was key. Losses don't kill options traders, calculating your alternate universe net worth on your woulda-coulda-shouldas do. EDIT 2: I will say this. My undergraduate degree was in Economics, and I'm finishing up my MBA in Finance right now. My education I think did give me a great deal of edge, over the average person just plunging into options. That doesn't mean you can't educate yourself. First and foremost go fucking watch some videos on options and their greeks. Implications of volatility on price as well is a basic knowledge you should have. EDIT 3: I usually buy contracts 1-2 months out. My plan is to sell around the half way point. Leaving a lot of theta meat on the bone so that they are still more valuable. 10-15% OTM. I never buy ITM. That 10-15% level has worked for me. I go for a strike price that I personally feel the stock can hit within the expiration. Almost all my winning trades have been ITM by the time I sold I believe. EDIT 4: If you look at my history, I followed the trends down, and then the trends up. If there's one "strategy" to what I do, you can say I ride trends. Knowing the trend was more instinctive. When China, the second biggest fucking economy in the world, was willing to take an extreme measure of forced quarantine of almost 500 million of its citizens, I understood just how fucking serious the virus was. Was that getting priced in the US stock market though? The potentially similar lockdowns in the US? No. Market was fucking hitting ATH at the same time. I shorted the shit out of everything about a week after (including DIS, $80p I bought when it was at $130) market hit ATH I think. My instinct was right, I went up to $550k~ or so from this. But then I made the mistake of holding when the trend had reversed. The market was no longer responding to the bad news. More death count than any other source of death in the country per day? Green. Record setting unemployment? Green. I went from $550k down to $91k. Bought ballsdeep calls from here and rode the wave back up. Learning to get a sense of the current trend is the hardest part I think. And who is your best friend? The trend. Who gives you your giant pile of tendies? The trend. Who buys your wife a new iMac pro? The trend. Never try to "outsmart" the market. You're going to lose you fucking shirt. EDIT 6: Almost forgot one of the biggest lessons I learned. I never ever close a position within the first ~1 hour of market opening. I usually close them in the last hour instead. Contract pricing is usually way out of wack across the board you are going to have massive amounts of slippage, mispricing, and just retarded level of lag and shit, even on the big boy brokers like Fidelity. (The only exclusion here would be for SPY...I don't go into SPY anymore, but if I did, I will sell at market open. The liquidity and the price movement is already built in when market opens for SPY. Any other tickers like AMZN, this rule applies) EDIT 7: I will add one more thing that led to my biggest gain trades. When a stock currently is at ATH, I mean actual ATH not high of 52 weeks, then there's a massive momentum going for the stock and chances are it will keep that momentum for a while. Using this logic, I went into AMZN calls. Many people asked me why I got in when it had already run up from $1.9k to like $2.1k or something, it's because I used that logic. (Be aware of buying into meme stocks ATH though, I'd be ready to cut my losses the next day if I got into a meme stock and it didn't continue going up/down) EDIT 8: Let me make one point clear. You are nothing. You are a nobody. Nobody gives a fuck about your gut feeling, or TA voodoo, or this, and that, and the market doesn't owe you shit. You are a dumbass. You are a dumbass. Repeat after me, you are a dumbass. The sooner you get this fact through your thick skull and learn to respect the trends of the market, the better it will be for your trades. Learn humility, stop fucking bragging about your 1 or even 10 wins, and more importantly, don't delude yourself into thinking you figured out the secret after your few trades. You haven't. Learn to be humble, and always fucking respect the market trends. It may feel like it, but this is not a fucking game, unless you want it to be and think the #'s you see on the neo screen are not real. You are trying to make serious $, not be proven right or how smart you are. I'll repeat, take ego out of it. Or not. But for me to get to this level over about 350 trades, these tips I outlined above worked remarkably well. EDIT 9: Many people seem to miss my points from the above giant ass retarded fucking post. So let me write another paragraph you can ignore. Hopping on the same trend is not enough. People pull out too soon, or worse they insist on going the wrong fucking direction. Even with my gains, I pulled out early on so so sooo many trades, with lost gains to the tune of approximately $3~ mil by my rough estimate. Letting my winners run and not pulling out too quickly let me get some big wins. This was not something easy for me to do, I was always tempted to pull the plug early on my positions but I held most and relied on tight trailing stop losses.
比如不是疫情的发生,而是其他利空导致现在的局面,那么这种跳高做空标普的策略就可能失败。(请大家一定要记住这段话!)
所以不要在等疫情过去后,比如几年后的股市里照搬今天的做法!
今天A股比较平淡,顺便写下对这个作者操作的评论。
1. 首先看看他的盈利模式,作者说从来不买ITM的期权,他的盈利来自于OTM和ATM部分,实际上ATM在现在的大波动下,很容易变成OTM。意味着还是可以用尾部风险发生来盈利的。
这有点类似黑天鹅基金,今年我们看到黑天鹅基金表现卓越。比如Universa Investments对冲基金在3月份产生了36倍的投资回报率,今年第一季度回报率合计高达41倍。
所以作者用期权实现30倍的收益,这是今年市场尾部风险爆发所致的正常收益倍数,而作者刚好运气好,使用OTM得到了这种收益。
2. 那么尾部风险基金,正常的年份表现是什么呢?可以预期,是应该输给大盘的。因为过去11年没有特别大风险产生。而上面的Universa Investments对冲基金的同样尾部策略在过去11年中刚好输给标普大盘一半。
所以这种策略在大多数时候不奏效。
3. 尾部策略能盈利的根本原因是什么?我以前写过一点简单说期权定义模型和公式的东西,就是现在的期权定价最终还是来源于B-S公式,而该模型的假设GBM假设实际是错误的,即假设含时股价是一个log-normal分布,
这个假设是错误的。进一步,凡是基于类normal分布的模型都有问题,都会有尾部风险,也就是黑天鹅的产生。同时也提过,世界最大对冲基金桥水基金的模型也是天生缺陷,2008年金融危机的罪魁祸首,MBS也即是房地产抵押债券
的定价模型也是天生缺陷,因为都和normal分布的变种有关。这样尾部风险是不可控的。所以销售MBS在赚了十几年钱后,有了08年的金融危机,所以今年桥水基金差点面临清盘,如果大盘后来不拉起来,桥水将会面临可能被大规模赎回。
4. 那么散户是否可以使用这种策略呢?反正都可以赚大钱呢。
这个问题是这样的:从正反两方面来说,使用尾部策略,一方面会在很多年,比如十年都赚不了钱,甚至亏损,另一方面,如果运气好某次黑天鹅发生,恰好也碰上作对方向,会赚很多倍的钱。这就是该文作者获得暴利的原因。
这种事情,其实会偶有发生。比如拿坛子里以前的人来说,就有人一天赚100倍的发生过,也有一次有个哥们在147美元石油期货那天账户从几乎破产到增加到几十万美元。
5. 但是,这种模式能长期盈利下去吗?答案很明显,不能,因为黑天鹅只是偶尔发生。今年有点多,所以今年这样赚的人就会多点。长期来看,这种策略,尤其是使用期权有可能会逐渐赔光掉资本。
比如说作者的账户走势图,曾经从50多万美元回撤到9万,这说明了巨大的风险。凡是最大回撤超过30%的策略,都几乎不能被大资金考虑,因为风险太高。
所以对作者来说,最好的方式,也许是尽早收手,或者是在这次疫情的事情下一轮暴跌后金盆洗手,因为如果不这样做,长期大概率又会把赚的资金赔进去。
6.那么作为对比的正向大概率策略,就是比如大多数投资者遵循的不断买入大盘,逢低抄底,滚动卖出的这类策略,又会是怎样一种收益结果呢?
有很多这样的例子,比如有散户一直做空波动指数(相当于做多大盘),由于过去11年大盘总是上涨的,一个有名的散户通过这种策略做到了2500万美元。但今年这个散户是否会破产了?因为今年TVIX在3月最高暴涨破了1000美元。
如果这个散户哪怕只是小部分资金,比如20%在做空TVIX而没有平仓的话,2500美元也会灰飞烟灭甚至不够。
另外比如2013年到2018年的5年,无数人买入XIV(也相当于做多大盘),长期不卖最多可以赚30倍,结果是XIV后来一天之内从140多跌倒个位数而清盘。
2016年时候,我曾经做个大数据基础上的模型,以期指为标的,每天只交易最多一次,演示给一些朋友看,3个月收益是34倍。但我提醒说这个模型是有尾部风险的,所以大资金不能使用。
所以其实正向的大概率策略也是有可能发生巨大风险的。比如3月如果没有无线QE,很多人的账户就会损失严重。而现在呢,美股面临第二次崩盘的考验,比3月的危险要大得多。因为联储再无限度QE就是可能导致美元出大问题。
只要想这个问题的答案就明白股市的风险度:如果在救美元和救股市里面选择,应该救哪个?答案显而易见。因为股市即使崩盘,以后还会涨回来。而美元一旦崩盘,是国家和社会系统的崩盘,美国会因为美元的崩盘而衰落,但如果只是
股市崩盘,美国还可能站起来。
7 那么是否有稳定长期盈利而又风险较低的法子呢?答案是肯定的。但这不应该叫做一种方法,也不可能是一种单个系统的交易方法,必须是随机应变,根据不同形势而采用不同策略的组合才可能。
如果有人总是吹嘘其系统如何好,能不断赚钱。一定要清楚一个基本原理:没有任何一种单独交易策略能应对所有股市情况。所以凡是宣称做某种交易系统的,最后都大概率失败。
这里面最重要的就是,大多数策略对基本面考虑不足。尤其是TA为主的交易系统的根本问题。
再说个例子,比如我们现在用的一种小方法,就是高位跳空就做空标普大盘,其实也是严重依赖FA的,因为标普大盘拉不动。所以才会有做14次,成功13次的93%胜率。如果换一种情况,也就是换一种基本面,
比如不是疫情的发生,而是其他利空导致现在的局面,那么这种跳高做空标普的策略就可能失败。(请大家一定要记住这段话!)
所以一定要把握住一点:FA是根本,而TA是用来进出的辅助。千万别弄反了。
由于时间关系,暂时写到这里。本来还想写一些个人以前时候的做法,等以后时间充裕有机会再写出来吧。
关于这篇转的期权的,以及暴利交易策略等,我有很多内容要仔细写出来,对做期权或者短期想赚多倍的人有参考价值。实际上极少数最终成为稳定盈利的成功交易者中很多人都要经历这种假暴富的过程。这方面内容比较多,要等几天专门有时间才能写完。
这个我这几天抽时间写个详细点的分析。